Sounder SIGN UP FOR FREE
Jiu-Jiteiros C2C
Jiu-Jiteiros C2C

Episode 86 · 7 months ago

40's w/Friends- Rogan and where's my f*ck'n FOOD

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

On this monthly edition of 40's w/friends Frank & Alfonso discuss the current labor shortage. Where have all the workers gone? They also talk about Joe Rogan's $200,000,000 Spotify deal and how he's changed since. Good lively discussions and interesting thoughts on this one.

This is the motivation. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of Jiujit. THATAL's coast to coast, the podcast that talks about what's important on at off the mats, Frank. I'm joined by my homeboy Fonso. What's going on, Fonzo? Going on, man? I'm fucking doing great. Only worked half a day to day, so I'm fucking doing great. Had all that's a long yeah, plus, you know, we just had that holiday, so I took some extra time off. Had a last Friday off too. So I'm doing great, man, I'm doing great. I'm excited to be talking you. I got a cool ass topic for today and I know you got some cool topic to so I can't wait talk to you about that as well. How are you doing? Tell everybody what this episode is going to be about. Man, what are we doing on this one? So I'm I been looking into this, you know, reading some articles about you. Supposed to see we're doing forty with friends and they get to your topic. All right, we're doing for the s with friends. I know, I fucked up, man, Damn. All Right, let me all right start over. Go. Hey, everybody, what's up? What's up? We're doing fortis with the friends, and here I'm tough, all right, and I'm talking about there's just been reading articles, man, about the labor shortage. You know, I'm talking about like people just not being, not going to work. And you talk about like a hospitals, they're not delivering babies and stuff. That's it, man. I think you're not putting enough work. Man, I'm not putting enough work. We got it, we gotta I'm not trying to be a baby daddy, I'll tell you that right now. Tell that to the baby mamas out there reading on this late anyways, Dam man, but, like you know, people just don't don't want to work or not able to work or whatever it is, you know. But okay, now there's now I know what you're talking about. Not Talking about babies, talking about jobs, jobs, right, like Jay, you know, I'm and it. Yeah, and dud didn't. Seems like everywhere you go there's people like they're looking for workers. Dude, you go to go to eat at a restaurant, like you know, it takes forever to get, you know, to get service or whatever. Like what was it like? A couple weeks ago, I was in Fresno, you know, kicking it whatever, went to go, you know, just have you know, just like in the afternoon, go grab a grab a beer and, you know, grab some you know, snacks or whatever, like, you know, finger foods, and dud. It took them forever to serve us. And, you know, we realize it was one person working the whole damn restaurant. Well, two people to cook. The Cook and the bartender will the only people working in this little pub, right. That's it. So like she was fucking you know, serve and drinks, taking orders, busing shit and this and that. So that's why I took forever and we felt bad. We're like, Oh man, you know, I'm we're not trying to hate on this place because obviously this these people are fucking hard working. You know, they're there by themselves trying to the best. Yeah, but, you know, I mean like, you know, we understand, like hey, man, like you don't need a couple more people to add to your stress. So we end up just saying hey, you know, think you anyways. And you know, we just went somewhere else. So we understood. But you know, like that's the kind of shit you see more often now. So I started, you know, reading articles about why that is, and that's what I'm going to talk about today and some things that we might be able to, you know, do to help us with this whole situation. Well, that was a long way of telling us that you're gonna be talking about the labor shortage. All right, yes, good, it's good. Tell a good, strong foundation. I like that. I like that. Yeah, what about you? What do you what do you talk to us about today? All, I'M gonna be talking about our superhero are our podcast superhero, Joe Rogan. So I'M gonna be talking a...

...little bit about him. He's been in the news late Lya for not some not so good reasons, but I really want to talk about all the reasons, good and bad. Okay, all right, sounds interesting. Now, see that that you you just like tickled. You know my interest. You Pique my interests there. So you know, I was going to say something else, but never mind this bringing gi right now. anyways. anyways, all right, so why me to start soften kick it off home boy. Cool, all right, Matt. So, like I said, man, you know the articles that I've been reading. We're just talking about how, like this is a nationwide issue, right, like this whole labor shortage. They're just not enough people out there wanting to work or willing to work or whatever it is. You know, fit various reasons. You know, some people are just they got comfortable with covid you know, getting that paycheck unemployment. You know, they don't have to worry about it. Other people, you know, man, maybe they were just burnt out. You know, they know, just fucking got tired of working. You know, they were got tired of the low wages, or a combination of it all, I don't know. You know, there's there's experts out there who whose job it is who try to figure this shit out and they're still arguing about it. So I'm not even going to attend to to even, you know, think about why that might be, because fuck if they can't figure it out, I'm not gonna figure it out. But the point is that, you know what I mean, they're the point is that there's like all kinds of shit out there. There's just the reasons why people aren't working. So, you know, that kind of puts pressure on the whole system. Right there's a reason why we're not getting our packages in time. All kinds of fucking supply chain issues, like I said before, like you go to restaurant, you know you don't have the service that you once did. And you know just, you know, just if you're in the industry where or you're in a position where you have to hire people, like I do, you know it makes your job extra harder, you know, just because you're you want to have people there to help you run your business or whatever it is, and it's they're really hard to fund. It just takes a lot more effort to find those people. So, you know, the articles that I was reading, they were talking about that and what can we do, or what cause or whatever? What is some of the reasons? And again it's hard to tell what caused it. But one of the things that, you know, are consistently. I've been looking at and I've you know, there's three different articles that I've read. One of them is from Market Watch. It's an opinion piece, but I still think it's still worth reading, and that was published in January of this year. And then there was a another article published by Forbes in November two thousand and twenty one, and then there was another article that I looked up recently published by NBC Meat Depress and that was published January ninth of this year. So they all three are fairly reason and a recent and they they all kind of say the same thing. And one of them has to do with immigration. Dude. You know, immigration has dwindled over the past few years for many reasons. You know, one of them, you know, immigration policies is under the last administration, you know kind of you know, they got tougher. You know what I mean? That a lot of a lot of restrictions were placed on immigration during the last administration. That has still cared over to this administration. Nothing has really changed there. So that kind of kepts more people from coming to the country. And I'm talking about not just, you know, undocumented or unlawful entries, but also, you know, just legal migration. Do you like, you know, people applying for work visas or people coming in for, you know, refugee visas and stuff like that, like all these different people that normally would be here in the states are no longer here. And some of the articles that I was reading, actually all three of these articles, were staying that...

...you know, most immigrants, more immigrants, will go towards service industries, like more than native born workers. So, to give an example, it like they they had a statistic that said that, you know, in the service industry you would find maybe eight percent of the like an eight percent difference in the people who go into a service industry who are native born versus foreign born or, you know, just immigrants, so meaning that when you have such a big reduction in the workforce of immigration, it causes less people to be available to work in those industries. So that's why you see a lot of those shortages. The same thing goes for like deliveries, delivery drivers and people in manufacturing. So that's part of it and a lot of it can be fixed if we were able to process those visas quicker, because right now there's like an eight months to one year backlog in processing these visas or work permits for people waiting for them and you know, they're really just they're waiting to be stamped, you know what I'm saying, like they're just you know, the they you you see, CIS, which is the department that approves these visits, is just like super backlog. They don't have the manpower, they don't have the people to review them and approve them, and that could be fixed if we were able to expand their budget and get them to hire more people so that way they can process all these permits and visas. So but that's kind of like an immediate, you know, like a real quick type of a fix, and it won't solve the whole thing because there's not really there's not enough of these these people to, you know, to fill all the vacant spots that are out there. So there's still a lot more. But the biggest thing is that while we do have this immediate shortage, in the future, all three articles are saying that we're going to have a bigger issue in the future because what's going to happen is a lot of the baby boomers have started to retire right HMM, so that we don't have enough workers, for native born workers, to replace all those people that are going to be retiring in the next, I don't know, ten years. So they've already started to retire. That's another reason, another part of the problem that we did we have the shortage is that we're now seeing the effects of the baby boom or generation retiring and not enough people entering the workforce to also make up for that deficit, and that's going to continue happening for the next ten years, even twenty years down the road. They're just there. There isn't as many people being born after that generation to meet that demand. So that's what these articles kind of mainly focus on. Is Long Term Immigration is, you know, how can we make it so that will we have a stable supply of labor in the states to fill all these different positions? And Yeah, immigration is a great way to do that. The problem is, you know, the sentiments around in this country, you know, concerning immigration, country routing. It's been. It's been awfully you know what I mean. There's lies, I been told, and just you know, myth. Yeah, so it's you know, it's sad too, because look, on one side I get it kind of right, like people are afraid, like of who knows what, you know, the boogeyman coming over and, you know, running amuck and I'd states, you know, in your hometown care and here are we and we worried about funds, though, Alinda heroin,...

...not at the country. I get that and I get that right, because anybody would be scared of, you know, or worried about their family and the effect right on our country. I get it. I get the sentiment and you know, one of the biggest talking points for a lot of people is like well, I you know, I just don't like illegal immigration. If you do it the legal way, there's no problem, right. So I have a big problem with those that statement, and my problem with that statement is that in the the the process to migrate legally is so difficult, very difficult, even under normal some circumstances. Like right now, like I said, there's this backlog of eight to two one eight months to one year to process these work permits and visis. Dude, there's always a backlog, there's always and there's all these hoops that people have to jump through that are just so unnecessary. Not to mention that. But you know, the our system here, and I'd says for immigration, is not the best. There's other systems that other countries adopt that actually have a much better way of recognizing, you know, who might be able to immigrate a lot quicker and accurately, and then also, you know, you get to see who these people are like. That's the whole point, right, like you want to be able to create a system where people can be vetted, but be vetted in a timely manner, so that way they can make its United States and benefit not only them. Because, look, the reality is the United States is going to always going to be like a nation of immigrants and it depends on immigrant labor. You'd it always has, no matter what, from the very inception, you know what I mean, like not to take it back to this era, but tod white slavery, you know what I mean, like that was a whole point of alium. They important people, Empire, state building. Yeah, so, you know, to it to ignore that, you know, immigrants played and still continue to play in a pivotal role in what America is is not a good idea, man, it's ignorant, you know I mean. So, yeah, it just truth that with immigrant like right, and it's going to continue to do so, it continues to need it. So just to continue to vilify immigrants is a terrible thing to do. You know, not just for you know, like just for the sake of people in humanity, but also just look at it at in terms of the United States being prosperous and of continuing to be a prospers nation. It needs immigrants and they have to be able to have a way to come here to work in you know, eventually integrate and become part of American society. You know what I mean? Like my GRANDPA was part of the BAS settle program back in the day. That was a you know, that wasn't the greatest program, but it was not but exactly exactly, you know what I mean, if it was tweaked, if there was a different way of doing things, you know, you know, some countries have like we call the point system where, you know, you fill out the application and for different in the skills and things like that, that you have education, if you speak English, you know, different things like that, they award you points. The more points you have, the more likely you are to be able to be granted, you know, a visa to come to United States or to to be go into the country, and that's something that we can try, you know, depending on what the needs of the labor market are at that point. You know what I mean, like if we need more engineers, and of course those are people are going to people would engineering experience and backgrounds are going to get priority. You know, if we need farm laborers,...

...for example, you know, we can have different grants here for them. You know, I'm saying so you can develop these systems to help us United States and help you know, anybody who's willing and able to come to United States to find work and a chance of the better life, man, because that's all we're here to do, right. We all want the same thing, for sure. Yeah, and that's my topic, man. That's what's up and that was cool. That's very informative. Man, D when you were researching this, where their countries that used that you remember reading about that have a because you mentioned that there are some countries that have a better processing, a better way of processing immigration. Do you remember recalling any countries off the time? One of them was Canada. Canada has a similar system like that, I know right. And the other one, man, I got to look for it. Let me see, I wrote it down. Let me see if my notes, but it was some it was a country in your I think it might have been France, but I can look that up and see you. But yeah, there's a few countries that have that have a system like that and I think, if I'm not mistaken, our current system United States is like the lottery system, where you basically just people apply and then you know whoever, just luck of the draw. And yes, that's why doesn't see you can really vision anybody that? Well, I mean obviously, obviously they're going to make you, you know. I mean working past the background checking all that, right, right, and then once that happens and they like Oh, yeah, well, look, you know, good, here it is. Well, before it gets to the lucky draw there's a process already in place. Yeah, so it's not like Oh, number twenty seven, you get to come across, right, right, I guess that. I feel like that's what a lot of people think is happening, like they just think they're just going to pick anybody, and it's never been that way. You know, as a matter of fact, like if you just put in the paperwork by yourself, you're probably going to get denied. You know, most of the time. I'm not. I've had family members in the past where we've sponsored a family member to come to come over. You know, you gotta be you gotta like turn in paperwork, you got to turn in like your tax return for I don't know how long to verify that. Yeah, if this person comes over here and does bootle this mother it, you're in charge or you're responsible for them, and that's a different process. Franct that you're talking about, because what I was talking about is somebody doesn't have any ties to United States and it's kind of a lot of system. If you have somebody that is already living here, like a family member, then you would go under the same track. Right, that would be a faster track, but it still takes a long ass time and yeah, they dig in pretty heavily. You know. We I've been in that position to like, not myself personally, that I sponsored somebody, but people in my family of sponsored other people in our family. Came in a bag of oranges. Remember that was crazy. Yeah, I know, man, we get learned that three times. Oh, and I found the article. It's the Forbes article and it was Canada and Australia. Actually not in Europe. My mistake. Okay, it was Australia. WHO has that system? Yep, made Lord of the room. Yeah, that was New Zealand. I know, I'm just fucking around, but now loading right now. Yeah, I yeah. And then, so what I was going to say is so that. Yeah, I mean if you have if you have family member, makes it easier, but just, you know, getting getting to that point, it takes a long time and it's not a. it's not cheap either. You know it. You're right, it does require like a like immigration lawyer. The processes is a lot. So you know, if you're going to have that kind of a process and you know you need...

...workers, it's not very efficient. You know, you need to find a more efficient way of doing that. You know, like I said, and it was it was done before the but I settle program so it's not like it can't be done again. It just needs to be done better, for sure. Yeah, yeah, just a way to legitimize it in and make sure that the right people are getting in and nobody's getting taken advantage of any way by form workers or by the government agencies or by people in these other countries that, Matt that might prey upon People's hopes and dreams of coming to this country. You know what I mean because I mean I only speak for I because I have relatives in Mexico. So I know, like do you come over here and you get a job at freaking Jack in the box? Your you hit the Jackpot, you know what I mean. You get a regular ass job like that, you're getting paid like, imagine what you're getting paid right now, and then in a gem myself. Fonso, we move to Madagascar, you're going to make ten times at you be like, what the fuck, let's go. That's literally what happens. If they're no, what am I doing here? And in other countries even more. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So a lot of times people come over here and they'll take any job and they'll take any wage because it's more than they've ever made in their whole life. You know that that brings about other problems as well, you know, but it's just there's it's just kind of like you fix one problem and then then this other problem arises. So, I mean it's I just feel for the people because I understand what it's like, you know, for for someone to come from a from a from a place where there's just the the there's just no hope or there's just no way of being able to make it somehow. You know, yeah, coming over here and just work and work and the American dream, you know, you come, you work hard and and you make something of yourself and and it could happen. You know, you could get a job, a forty hour a week job, and be able to buy a house and raise your kids and become a citizen. I mean that's what happens with what happened with my dad, you know, so right, I mean exactly. And a lot of people, a lot of other people have different stories, you know, in different reasons things for what they did, but in the end really they're just coming over here to work and trying to contribute to the community. You know what I mean in most instances. You know, there there are some stray cats out there and just like in any family, you know, they write, there's fuck ups and and sometimes those are those maybe will even get across in in this wedding process. But maybe if we tien the screw somehow do better. You know, maybe we can, like you mentioned, increase funding somehow, some way. I mean, yeah, we're spending money on crazy amounts of crazy amounts of money on crazy ass things. I mean I'm sure if we did some research, we could find a multitude of programs that were like, are you serious? You're testing what runs the viscosity of toothpaste and pasta sauce? Yeah, now, for Real, man like. And there's a lot of wasted money and government. We won't we know that. I'm sure we can dig up articles and maybe that'll be a topic for another fort with friends on the right down the road rolls. I'm trying to apply for a four hundred and three. See and well, at the other point, the other point that I wanted to make was the other thing about like, you know, the argument where you know they you know they took their jobs, you know, whatever. You know they're coming to taking our jobs. Look, I don't know. I mean if we look around now, man like, there's less immigrants now than there have been in the last two and a half years. Look at the job storage. Are they really taking the jobs?...

I don't think so. And again, man like, these statistics of the baby boomers vacating their jobs. You know, no, there's gonna be way more jobs out there than anybody can end and can knows what to do with. You know what I mean? It's going to be a shortage, it's gonna be bad. So, Noe, you know, they're not taking your jobs. There's plenty of jobs out there. There's not enough workers. That's the problem right now. There's not enough workers. So there's this guy that has the job that I want. He has my job that I had in high school, working at Arby's quits. I'm quitting my job and I'm getting bad job. Dang lucky son of a gun. Why'd you even let that go? Ever, I know, Bro, you get the elbow of the roast beef when it's done. At the end of the day, all of them little Slovackful. That's our my bad. Now that's a super informative man, because I've been noticing, and I'm sure a lot of people out there all listening you know, have also noticed. You know, everywhere you go it's it is taking a little bit longer. You know, I mean you even you, you go to target and there's not there's no people to know, but he's stock in the shows. There's no nobody render you're like, where's everybody? Yet there this is we got, Bro, we're trying our best. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's what it is, man. So, you know, hopefully this thing kind of turns around fairly soon, because you know, you know it's needed. You know, workers are nearing fourteen year old pretty soon. Yeah, that's nothing you can do. You can roll back the fucking what are they called? The the worker agild Labor Lass, child labor lass. Yeah, roll those back, all right, man. What Nga Tritton we's only in kindergarten. Playoff Eten, get my double cheeseburger now. I'm sorry, don't tell me. Sorry, aiden, Hurre you go, it's my first. Shut up, fool. He's gonna steal all that's great. He's gonna stee all the happy meals. Ha Ha, it's take those from work. Found your dashful. All right, man, what will? What are you tell talking to us about today? All Right, man, I'm going to talk about did you watch the Super Bowl? I did. Yeah, it was pretty good. You Remember Games. You are code commercial. Yeah, that I got duped. fucked day. I did. Yeah, I wasn't break no if yours, brick fo the Chinese were behind that, and they've chipped your phone. Now you've they've downloaded a tick tock like APP. It looks just like not. Just kidding. That's not what I'm talking about. I was like, full, what you had me do that? I was like, I check my phone. I thought it was a Bitcoin for Crypto. Full, they already unloaded your wallet. Fuck, good thing I don't have anything in there. Ha Ha, I don't know crypto. So now you took me my debt this China. Thanks. I knew it all. Along. That's why I did it...

...sweet and I use my mom's phone too. Sorry, MOM's, but you don't own anything. No, might have had crypto. Yeah, Nah, I'M gonna be talking about Joe Rogan, man. I mean one of the you know, we talked about this a lot, you know, one of the he's one of the first people that we listen to. or we even why did we listen to Joe Rogan? I mean what are some things you've always known about Rogan? Of them? You know what, when I first started listening to him, I thought it was, you know, he's entertaining dude, like he you know, he I like the fact that he had like just you know, some just weird, you know, weird conversations with people just, you know, like fuck man, I can't think of a specific person right now, but like I like that as conversation seemed like they were just not plan like they were just two people talking genuine conversation. Yeah, and they would just get into these cool little topics and then like, you know, he seemed to be genuinely interested in what this other person was talking about and of course that person was like super into their conversation because it's, you know, that's it's whatever they like to talk about. For for example, okay, I'll give you a good one, like Neil de Grass Tyson right, like he's one of my favorite, you know, scientists out there. You know, I love, you know, watching him and hearing him break things down right, and like he's breaking down these astro physicists, physics, you know, concepts and Shit, and that I thought that was super cool. And just two questions that Joe Joe asked, you know, I found, honestly, just intriguing and thought provoking, you know, because it'd be like questions that I would ask, you know, just conversation with my friends, and you know, they just seemed to be, you know, to have like a really good conversation and just fun and light hearted. And then he would also have some you know honest like conversation with people were like okay, you know what this is getting into, like some pretty heavy stuff here, but he was able to keep that that same conversational tone with people and you know, that's really the appeal man like just random, just as sortment of ECLECTIC people coming in and out of his show caught my attention. Yeah, well, I mean I've always known Joe Rogan from I mean I'm a little bit older than you. I remember he was on some s, some s or ninety Sitcom, or a ninety Sitcom called news radio, and I didn't know who he was, but I remember him being on that show. And then after that show he started coming out on fear factor. Right, I think by the time a little bit into fear factor. was when he started doing work with the UFC and that's when I really became a big fan of his. And then then I started doing Jiu Jitsu and then a little bit after I started doing Jiu Jitsu I started getting into podcast and I would just download a bunch of stuff but I would never listen to anything, and he was one of the few that I would download D and in. Finally he had a guest on that I'm like, AH, dude, I want to hear what they're going to talk about. I want to hear this. And it was boss route and it was back in February two thousand and eleven. It was like episode eighty three. So I wasn't like the first, first batch of episodes. He'd been doing it for a while already, kind of perfected his little formula and he had boss on and for those of you that don't know boss room, boss routine is like a x ufclight heavyweight champ from the early days. He's a pancrake as champion. He's just an awesome, awesome dude. He's got a Jiu Jitsu School, I want to say like in Beverly Hill somewhere. He used to also train MMA fighters. He's got an awesome scene in the documentary on Hicks and Gracie called choke, where he was training Rico Rodriguez for a fight against actually wasn't training Rico rodrigs he was training Mark Kurve for a fight and Rico Rodriguez was helping out...

...and boss Routin was the coach, so he kind of organized the whole thing. So if you haven't seen choke, CO check it out. Awesome scene with boss route. Trust me, it's worth it. But yeah, he had boss on as a guest and Boston. You know, I mean boss is just awesome do he got crazy stories and, as a matter of fact, he boss used it was started telling stories about being a bouncer. You said. You know, one of the things that broken's able to do is he gets these people in his studio and it's almost like they forget they're being recorded because they're just conversating and I don't know if they were drinking or smoking weed. On that episode I don't recall, but a lot of times that's what he would do back in the day, you know. And and then lowers the filter for people a little bit and they start to open up and then next thing you know they're they're telling these cool, awesome stories and boss told the sickest bouncer stories. That's where I got the idea for our bouncer episode. I was so enthralled with them. Like Matt, someday I would love to do something where I talked to bouncers like that, and we were able to do it and and I love to do it again. You know I mean. But that was when I got like fish hooked into Joe Rogan. And almost every day, maybe not even every day, because a lot of times I would sift through his get, you know, I would listen to the I would look at the guests and I'd be like, I'm not into that, I'm not even listen to it, and I wouldn't listen to it and it would be totally fine. And then the next day or two days later, because you used to not pump him out every day. He used to pump him out like maybe once a week, maybe twice a week, whatever his schedule allowed him to do, he would do and just as time progressed and started doing them all almost every day. Is Pretty much what he does now if you look at it. But it was just a cool deal. You know, where he would have on these just like you mentioned, a wide variety of different guests. He would have on Comedians. Obviously, because he's a comedian, he was right there in La you know, so he had access to all these high level talents coming in. You know, a he would catch him at the show the night before. He would do a little set himself. They would do is say they would probably go back, have a couple of drinks today, coming on my pad, don't do a podcast tomorrow. Bubaba, and next you know, you listening to to Tony Hinchcliff, you're listening to Bill Burr, you're listening to Brian Callen. You know, you got to meet and get to know all these super cool people and it's, like I said, they're comedians. Sometimes their scientists, you know, like you mentioned, you know, Tyson to Gracie. Sometimes it's authors, you know. I mean I know he's had on this this guy named you. Ever heard of Graham Hancock? No, no, Graham Hancock, you like, loves tripping balls on on on fucking what, on Dante and doing these crazy writing things and he's got some crazy books. But he's got some super cool, interesting stories. You know, Eddie Bravo, dude. What's not to like about Eddie Bravo? Should you take them for the truth? He's just an entertainer. Who Cares? He loves talking about crazy conspiracy stories. He's got some funny ass stories, Dude. He told a story early on in one of his the podcasts where I'm not even going to go into the details, but it involves Eddie Bravo in the middle school and condom that he used. All Right, what come? Yeah, it's great, great's crazy, but you're like, what the fuck are you? Were you going friend and LIDDLE school? You're like, that's what Shit. Middle School people do you know? But again, we listen to these podcasts. Why? Because it's entertainment. It's just right, something that I would I used to listen to these like during my prep period as a matter of fact, dude, I don't know if you remember, but I worked at a middle certain, middle school in drest no, and it was known for giant rumbles, and one day I this into a super good podcast.

And, mind you, one whole side of my classroom is nothing but windows and there was a giant rumble like right outside my class I didn't fucking know what was going on, Dude. I just put surround sound on, listen to my podcast and I'm just doing work, dude, because it's just entertaining. You know, it's good stuff, right. That's again I got introduced to above a bunch of different Comedians, you know, and then soon after that I started going down. I don't know if you remember. You probably did. You go a couple of times with this when we went to the comedy store. No, I don't think I did, but there was a handful of times where we we drive out and go to the comedy store on Friday night and sometimes random ass people would just show up all you know. You you see the lineup and you be like Ah, cool, I'm you know it's going to be a good show no matter what, and then Bobby Lee drops in or Joe Rogan drove up scene or Brian Kellen drops in and you get to see all these people that you you would hear on the show, you know firsthand. And then not only did you did, I get introduced to all these different guess, but dude, how many commercials does this fool have at the beginning, at the middle? Now he's mixed, he's playing us, he's mixing it all up, but how many commercials does he have in his podcast? How many sponsors does that guy have? I don't know, man, I don't think I'm to be honest, I don't think I've ever listened to a whole podcast. I'd like listen to like bits and pieces of different guests. So I don't know. I don't think I've ever listened to a whole show. In the day he would always start off every podcast. I mean he still does, see. I mean I keep it spotify. He starts and then a little bit later sometimes he adds kick in or that he'll he has like these readings that he does for his sponsors. But do there's been so many things that he's been like, Hey, I try this, you should try it too, and I would always try not everything that you would plug. I would try, but dude, I tried me Undy's, some Toni's. I tried. But your box, you know, it's like a like a meat delivery service. I tried nature box. It was like a snack of the month, like a order snack. Ideal. Yeah, I've seen him push on that. What's all the yeah, the on it, and I know the Tim Tam. Yeah, I remember that. Like that, with that, I've actually bought it. Why? No, I didn't buy I got it a gift because one of my friends knew that I wanted it. But it's at must fuck. It's like a it's a massage therapy gun, like you fucking like it, like it's like a Jackhammer type of motherfucker. You press a button and it just stick ass. Fool. Yeah, yeah, fool, you got the member he off do. He used to also be sponsored by fleshlight. How many of those, fool that I'm on my hand my fifty world became. You became like a lifetime member. You're like I did full. They're all just keep. They're on auto reorder fill. They already know. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. He's seeing you when every five weeks, two weeks every two weeks. Click here, heed your delivery faster. No, but seriously, though, man, he's done a lot for all this. For as long as he's been on, I've found the what he's been saying very informative and and very maybe not even informative, but like entertaining, because sometimes he be talking about answers, talk about ufos, he'll talk about drugs, he'll talk about freaking fights. You know what I mean. Like it, which brings me to another point. You know I mean it. Actually,...

...before we go on, I want to talk about his spotify exclusivity deal. He signed with spotify, as everybody knows, and he signed a mega deal fond. Do you remember what the numbers were originally reported at many when I first heard it was a remember about you remember the number that he was going to get paid? Was it like ten million, a hundred million? It was in the low hundreds, like hundred and ten hundred and twenty mill for x amount of years. Right, well, right, a couple weeks ago people started reporting and this was the in the New York Post, this was in or Washington Post, this was in the New York Times, this was in readers, this was in Forbes his deal is actually worth more than two hundred million dollars, and I don't know if that was the original number, or is it that the number that he got because of incentence and now it's blown up into this number. You know, I mean kind of like the way athletes, like a quarterback, of if you throw twenty touchdowns, you'll get a million dollars, and every touchdown after that it's like two hundred and fifty k Moor or whatever. You know, it's a monetary incentive that they have based on hitting certain numbers, and this was never spoken about and all of a sudden, you know, Brogan has been in the news because he's had some some guests on who've been maybe, depending on what side you're on, giving some bad information, but he just keeps been pumping your like, dude, why does he keep putting these people on? But they get millions of downloads, like those are the ones that get even more than his regular episodes, sometimes even and he if you look at his guest list from the last eighteen months, it's changed dramatically since he signed this deal. I mean we're in February now of twenty two. He signed the deal to go exclusive and September. So what's that like? Almost two years of Info there. Well, this year will be too full years. So we're like at fourteen, fifteen months, somewhere around there. But before he signed this exclusive suit, exclusive deal with spotify, one of the episodes that I would always look forward to listening to would be his fight companions. You have. Did you ever listen to any of those, Fonso, no, I don't think I did. Man, all right, I don't. I'm not sure if you guys out there listening ever ever listen to these five Joe Rogans old fight companions. But basically, imagine, like if we were going to podcast live and we got to do this. All right, we're gonna do this. We're going to do our own fight. I am be it for WHO's number one or a DCC or a UFC or a fight night or a pay you whatever, we're going to do it. But basically what he would do is he'll be like, basically, imagine if I go Fondo Saturday night, my pad, we're going to record, bring some meat, cousin at we're recording at seven. Bring some drinks, Eddie, we're seven o'clock, bringing some weed or you don't even whatever, but everybody it would just be like a pot look and then you would not all right, you know, everyone knows with time to fight start, when the fight start. Were recording and we're going, all right, tell a fights are starting right now. Tell everybody countdown and first round and starting in five hundred and forty three, in case you want to scenk up with us. Boom. So it's live at the moment for the fights and they're just really they're supposed to be commenting, commentating on the fights that Joe wouldn't be working on. You know what I mean? You know like, Oh, you look at this, I heard that he's been working on this, and you know just kind of the things that that you wouldn't be able to he wouldn't be able to share on a pay per...

...view or on the show. You get it. You get that a little bit of inside because Sometimes Brien shop would be there. Sometimes it might be like an actual you see fighter or a retired fire you know, or an or a coach. So it would be super cool. But you know, as the show would go on, they'd be having drinks or they would smoke and they would get a little off track, sidetrack, but they would tell goodass stories, you know, and that's really when I really wanted to get into podcasting, was after listening to those episodes. But since he switched over to spotify he hasn't done any and as a matter of fact, he's done twenty one mma show since then. I don't have the numbers on how many he did before, but it was like almost once a month before that and he'd been on since two thousand and nine, I want to say two thousand and ten right. I went back and I looked at I went back to like late fall of last year and he's had one MMA show in July. In January with Julie Ampania, he's had to. He had to in December. Before that he had one in October and then before that he had two in August and then I didn't go any further than that. And then again no fight companions. The last fight companion was July eleven of two thousand and twenty. So, Oh, I don't know if he's also you know, when he started the spotify deal, that's when he moved to out moved to Texas, and one of the things that he was able to do when he was in la was that's where all his homies were. So it's homies would just drop in sometimes. So right, I don't know if it's that he doesn't have the same kind of friends in Texas. He's got that spotify money full flying man on a jet. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, do these five companions and they're funny, man, you know they're they're so good. I mean how many times that be? Will you watch the fight with your friends and your barbe queen and you're having drinks and you're watching the fights and someone's dad tells a crazy ass story about Vietnah or someone's crazy ass work story. You know, I mean it's just good, good stuff. You know. So so you think? You think that that spotify is affecting like all that stuff that he's not doing anymore. Like is it like them pushing like a man? You got to get more ratings, so this was getting you more rating. So like do more of this less of that. I definitely think that. I definitely think that, and then even more so when he came out and gave that message like Hey, I'm not doing anything, I'm just getting both sides, and which he does. But I key, sometimes he seems to sprinkle the other side and he agrees with the other side, which is totally fine. I don't give a shit. That's totally fine, and if you want to agree with him, you can as well, you know. And as a matter of fact, I remember somebody that I follow on Insta posted something about him when when he was catching a lot of heat, and I was like Bro, I commented on it and I shouldn't have, but I did, and I said something like bro He's a comedian, UFC commentator. Why the fuck do I care? Or why the fuck would I ask him about health advice? I'm ask him about a joke, or I would ask him about a fighter, because he would have better knowledge about that than I would, you know. But I'm you might as well ask him about how to fix a rocket or about the solar system or about the Big Bang theory, because he's gonna know nothing about that as well. Right, yeah, and then somebody came back at somebody actually responded and came back at me and they're like, oh, so, do you think you should just be listening to your doctor or big Farma or whoever you want? And...

I go yeah, you should let into whoever you want, regardless of who you know and but that's what I that's what I'm saying, Dude. And the more people have turned on him, the more people are listening and he's reaping the benefits like this. Two hundred meal didn't just come out of nowhere. You know it's been there. I'm sure it's been a goal that he's been working on. I'm sure spotify was like a bull. You're getting crazy ass numbers. Keep this up, because this was in their plan. This was, if you go back and read about like the early business plan of spotify. Since Day one they've been wanting to become number one in the podcast industry. They've been trying to take down apple and they finally did it. In December they were number one in podcasting. The of all the podcast platforms out there, they were had they had the most listens, the most download that's no accident. There's no accident in there that Brogan had a big part of that. That's why they're paying him the big bucks. The money's paying off. I'll, I'll you know, the saying you get what you pay for is shit. A hundred million dollars, think about what you're going to get it right, right, and and I just like I'm kind of sad about it, you know. I'm like, I would do the same, you know I would. I would be like, hey, fucking grape juice is the best. I hate grape juice, but I'll tell you it's the best. If they're going to pay me, you know, maybe grape juice. But I don't know if I would sell like poop water or anything like that. I want hurt people, but if I can make some money and do something that is just going to sell a little bit of myself, I'll do it. I'm fine with that. You won't be mad when you got that new studio of fund zone. I don't know, man, I don't know. We'll see, I guess. I guess I won't know until I'm percented with that decision. Right now, I'm well know, tell the Mexican construction workers are shown up at your house lasting something. I'm on a Yalla and laying concrete to install my new pool. All right, done, all right, a podcasts from the pool. Okay, yeah, I don't know, man. I Guess I'll cross that bridge. Is Bad, because what's that? I said? I'll cross that bridge when I get there. I guess once that once that offers made, then I'll figure out if I can sell my soul or not. Once the concrete drives, there's no going back. Okay, but I just thinking, you know, that I missed the old Joe Rogan. The old Joe Rogan would have on like a fucking scientist that is working on crazy backteria. I don't know. He would just have the weirdest guess on at the randomnest times, you know, sometimes fighters, sometimes doctors, sometimes whatever. And now it just kind of seems like it's the same recurring theme over and over and the a lot of the same a lot of the people that he used to have on he doesn't have on as often and again. That could be because the location change, but it's it's kind of sus to me, you know. Yeah, I mean it's normal, man, whenever you're getting paid like that. I mean because it's no longer his podcast, you know. I mean it's not just him to control, like he's Zac go. It's not got a bottle Brogan on modify. Yeah, yeah, he's got a boss now. Yeah, I mean like he he didn't before, now he does. So you know, it is what it is and you know, like he's got to take it. I mean he's got two hundred million dollars. He can't be that mad. Belongs to the streets. That's street is called spotify. So yeah, that's too...

...bad, man. So maybe someone he can fill that void. But yeah, it's too bad, but it is what it is, you know what I mean? Congratulations to him for getting that two hundred mill him and his family set for life. He's still putting out awesome podcasts. You know, I'll live. I'll give a listen to his episodes every now and then. I haven't heard a full episode. I want to say maybe I've listened to, like to complete episodes of his since he switched over to spotify. I can't think of the second episode. I'm like, Oh, actually know, I am. Like two episodes that I listened to all the way were one of his MMA shows from this last December with Cheeto vetta on. You guys know who cheat the better, the UFC fighter, dude. That's a really cool podcast. Listen to that one cool backstory. That's like if I, if you were, if I were, you were to ask me like, Hey, what's a good what's a part Joe Rogan episode that I actually listen to? That I'll get a good feel for what his episodes are like. That would be one that's a classic Joe Rogan episode where you're going to get stories you're not going to hear anywhere else. You're going to hear I mean you'll get heat do he even gets into his tattoos, you know, like personal stories like that. He talked about his first day in the gym. He talks about his first five craziness, craziness. And then the other episode that I would highly, highly recommend you go listen to, and I don't know the number and they I want to say it was like from from January of last year or February of two thousand and twenty one, and it was when he had Francis and Gonu on. Do anybody out there listen to that episode? That's a fucking movie Bro that move. That Guy Story, amazing, AH, amazing. Gold listen to that story, to that episode. It's like a little it's it's a long one, like two plus hours, but it's just cliff having cliffhanger after cliffhanger. You know, it's a roller coaster ride, but it's a well worth episode to listen to him. You'll get a better understanding for who Francis is as a person and kind of like, Oh shit, he is like God. After hearing all the stuff he's gone through, I can see why he is the way he is. Right, right, but awesome episodes. I don't listen to all of them all the time, but hey, yeah, but last the last thing I heard from your Joe Roukin was a compilation of him saying the n word over and over again. I think that was it. Yeah, that was terrible. I know, I never, I've never heard him say that, but that, I mean, obviously he has, but not. See, that's the thing about choosing topics, that choosing episodes to listen to, you know. I mean there's some episodes where I'm like, that's like a topic that I don't really want to know about. On top of that, that person is someone that is super controversial and maybe I don't even like that person. So if he's can't he can have them on. I can still like him, I can still like listening to him, but that episode I'm not going to listen to. And I'm not saying that he got baited into saying the things that he said. He's got free will, he's got his own mind. He said what he said. Hey, that's too bad. You know, in the end, just, I mean will you? You have a choice, just like he had a choice to say what he says. We should have a choice into listening to what we want to listen to, you know. And but again, we should also have we should also be smart enough to understand that, hey, he's not an expert and maybe the people that he's having on are are or were considered experts at a certain time, and maybe they're not. But you gotta you gotta be a doll about that and realize that yourself and you can't just be like, oh, he said he's...

...a doctor and I'm going to listen to what he says. Fool, you don't know that. Fulls background. Would you go to get a root canal from any doctor in the phone book? Hell No. Would you just drive around town until you saw a freaking what's the Colon Oscar? Be Doctors, procologist, I don't know, proctologies. Would you just drive around be like, Oh, oh, that's a proctologist, all right, I'm gonna go get my Coldon Oscar be done right there. No, Dude, you're going to do some research. You know, same thing with your health or with anything that it that's going to have something to do with your life or your wellbeing. Do a little bit of research and don't just use Google. You're not in fifth grade, you're not doing a state project report, so go to your library or use your universities database, ser something. But we got to do better than just doing simple google searches. Yeah, sometimes that's not the best. Use Google. Most the time that's not the best. Yeah, it was dollar. Yeah, who will not the best for anything. So if you can find something else, cool, but also check, because there's a lot of bullshit out there. Yeah, so that's all that and I find thanks for listening, man fell. Yeah, man, well, that box there. Now, that's that's a good topic, man, it's it's it just, you know, it's good to go back and look, look back at how how things started, you know, and with everything, man, like, I mean, you know, he's he's a comedian. You know, he's an artist, just like a musician, you know, is just like you know, an author is and stuff like that. And like, you know, things change as people evolved and yeah, and move in and you know again, you know, once you once you decide to sign a deal like this, then, you know, you got to understand that. You know, your medium isn't a hundred percent your own. Now, like now you're sharing it. You're kind of CO writing it with whoever's pain, right. You know I mean because they they have a lot of when my plan peaked in and we started talking about karate more, don't trip out, guys. All right. So here, here's a true test, here's the true, true test here for you, Frank. If you get that spotify deal right and they went you to do won't just say? Let's just say, Hey, we'll give you ten million dollars tomorrow. But you got to you got to put on your podcast that you think that karate's a superior martial arts to Jiu Jitsu. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna say? The fact that you have to ask me that question, Fonzo, you know, I'm not signing for less than twelve million. I'm all right for the rest of my life, and then I'm going to change the name of Jiu Jitsu to karate. Will really when people be like you do karate, you be like, yeah, I do karate. Think about it, man, we can get steal. You're playing chess, man, I'm playing. I'm amazing, modifying. I'm playing shoots in light or it's not even chest checkers exactly. Bro You're trying to play checkers. I'm over here. Please be jeweled. Part three. All right, man. Well, now we know. Now we go Jiu jitsu forever. All right, man, that's all I got. Fonzo, you wanted anything else you want to add, man, before you wrap this up? Nah, man, I just want to say it was cool. I hope you guys out there enjoy it. To let us know, let us know where your thoughts are. Man, in my are we complete off base here with what our thoughts are, and let us know if there's any topics that you like to maybe have us talk bout on the show. I mean I love to do some...

...research on other stuff. Like I said, we kind of just plan these out whatever. You know, we catches our interests. You know before we talked about it. So you know, if you find some interesting out there, share it, share with us and yeah, maybe we'll do we'll see you on the podcast later. Yeah, and whoever sending those messages and asking us to do the history of baby oil, stop, just stop. We're not gonna do it all right, that was that was Eddie. No, it's me, fool. It could be a multitude of people. It could be a lot of people can do it. But you know what we are going to do next week. WHAT'S THE NEXT UFC? Two hundred and seventy two? Is it to seventy two or two, seventy three, two seven through to seven Deuce? That's whore he moss withal Kobe coming and bro that's going to be a really good card. Looking forward to talking about that. Breaking it down. I'm going to throw my cast out there and try to really in the big dog, Eddie, see if we can get him on the podcast, because in our decided to talk about it. But that'll be next weekend or next week's show, so look out for that dropping pretty soon. Jiujit titles until next week. Everybody, stay safe out there, keep rolling and trading if you can, and we hope to hear from me soon. Peace, cool man, fucking gongs whacking it in at the table over here there. This is the motivation on.

In-Stream Audio Search

NEW

Search across all episodes within this podcast

Episodes (95)