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Mason Fowler interview

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In this episode the guys get a sit down interview with the MIGHTY Mason Fowler, S.U.G champ and IBJJF World Champion. Mason talks how he arrived at CTA in San Jose and what it takes to make it to the top of the competitive grappling world! 

This is the motivation. Well welcome toanother episode of You, Jide Os. Everybody were excited to be with youguys. All today, on this episode of Teris Coast to coast, we got the numberone grappler. Ever we have Mason Fowler go ahead and introduce my co host Eddie,and you can train us how you doing today, Buddy Dude Dude, we fucking outdid ourselves man, we got Mason fell or arguably the one of the pound propoundstaples and submission wrestling, and it's a huge honor to have you, man,you're an ad cf, qualifier submission underground champ, multiple time I vj J,F world champion Mason thanks again for taking time to join us and talk toJitsu Man. We are honor to have you and our listeners are honored to have. Haveyou join us? How are you doing tonight? Man, good? That's, got done with mysecond practice of the night of the day, so yeah I just homes, took a quickshower and make some food in a little bit, Jo right on man. That soundsawesome man, so you know what I know you have a busy schedule. So we trulyappreciate you being here with US and without fither. Do let's get into thesequestions real, quick staple question of all yojis interviews is what is yourfa all time, favorite martial arts movie, and why Wow Marchal arts movie?Well, I got a good one. What about kill bill? Oh that is awesome, excellentchoice, man, Oh man, that's what I'm now did you like the first one orsecond one, better man they're. Both I mean they're. Both equally is they'reboth equally as good they're. Both of me, I think I think my favorite fight, seenin that movie, is the fiwood o ready Che in that in thatgarden, yeah, where she slices her freaking head off in the snow, conic yeah an the snow,yeah yeah. It is at amazing cinematography, such a great scene yeah.I that rocky rocky you know those are to inspirations. I guess grown up. YeahRocky was yeah. I remember I mean even when I was like fighting amateur a manstuff, I would. I would really watch the rocky movies like when I was intraining camp. That's got to just like pump. You upright, yeah for sure a I watch rocky before I mow the lawn. It's really hardfor me muster up the energy to mow the lawn,but rocky gets me pumped up. Man is like the same thing: He'll hump thatthe ithe Ti Tiger theme as he's doing it to I seen him, I seen him he all right cool. So moving on to yournext question here, you know a lot of our listeners. I feel, like you know,I'm a beginner when it comes to Jujitsu myself right and I always think tomyself. It's like like what makes the person good at you Jitsu. How do youget good, and you know people will tell you hey, spend more time on the Mat.You know what I mean: keep going, keep showing up, and things like that, whichis true right. The more I've spent on the map, the more I've grown and I'veseen it happen with a lot of people. Are there particulars that you mightwant to work at like while you're on the mat like? What would you suggestfor people to do to kind of see more or better progress? Well, when you're,first starting it's different, that the answer would be different for everyperson right right, someone who's? First starting, I would say that the the goal is to take as many classeswith your professor as possible and to be very open minded and be be willingto learn and be coachable if you're now at all- and you think you always knowthe answer- and that's probably going to stunt your growth a little bit and and that's it man and just and juststay, consistent and think more about...

...the long term instead of the short termlike if you don't think about getting that next drive or like. When am Igoing to get my blue belt just think about making this a part of your lifeand enjoying it and and then in you know, eight years, nineyears ten years, you'll be a black bolt, so you have to also it's not just about doing like twentyclasses a week. You also have to have a training schedule. That's consistentthat you can actually follow for many many years. If you really want to getgood, can I peg you back on that question?Yeah of course go ahead man? What do you look for in a good, jujitsu coach?What should I be eyeing when we ad for a good jits coach? I mean it depends. I would say again: It depends on what your goalsare. What stage what stage you are with what stage you are in your Jujitsujourney and then also what your short term and long term goals are. Mostpeople just want to learn self defense and be able to like handle themselvesif they get attacked right and it maybe you know, maybe do one or twocompetitions, or you know you got a wife and kids or whatever. So forsomeone like that, I would say that the biggest thing is. Obviously you want someone who's, agood teacher that runs the academy correctly. You want. You want to find an academythat has has a really a pleasant environment. You don't want to be anacademy that has like a toxic environment so that you can enjoy yourtime, training, yeah and then yeah. You want to coach that you know well spokenthat can articulate the techniques and positions you know just becausesomeone's good doesn't necessarily mean they can teach good. So, on the other hand, if you're acompetitor- and you want to be like a world champ or something, then onething that you're going to have to look at is like the person who you'relearning from you know, do they compete? Do theyunderstand the rules? Have they won anything because ifthey're, not winning, then how are they going to teach you and have you and youknow, mat experience is important. Yeah experience is important, but but Idon't think that every single person has to train under a world chap rightright, there's plenty of people out there. I know plenty of people thatnever competed or only competed a couple times that are very good Jitsuinstructors as well. Okay, John Donnie would be a good example of that yeahgreat example. So that leads into question numberthree: take downs are crucial to all grapplingarts except Jujitsu. Do you personally see that as a flaw in the art, shouldthere be a bigger emphasis on TAKEDOWNS IN JJ? What are your thoughts brother? No, I think the emphasis is is where athad a good place. Okay, pick downs are very, very useful in Jiujitsu, ofcourse, depending on which rule set you're competing in in the Ivy for aACC which art the two biggest organizations and Ju Jitsu. They do have points and you do scorepoints for take down, so they are useful, but obviously a god pullingguard kind of negates that right yeah. So what you have to get good at isusing your takedowns to finish sweeps so yeah the Guy Pulls Guard. You can'ttake him down anymore right, but a sweep is essentially the same thing asa takedown, except for instead of both of US starting standing, I'm startingin the guard right and then I'm you know, I'm still taking you down to geton the top position. So...

I think it is very useful. You have toknow how to pull into a guard that you can come up into a take down positionand then you're able to execute the take down so maybe like getting butterflies andgoing into an arm, drag into a single to double leg type of situation, yeahexactly okay! Thank you! Man! Thank you. That's a question. I really wanted toask you and then name your top five greatest grapplersof all time. A trick question I do the thing is about me: I'm kind of ananomaly where, like I wasn't really a fan of Jujitsu, I was a big fan of Emma.That's what led me to competing in Emma and then I I decided to not compete in em any moreand that kind of like put me into Jiujitsu right. So it's not like. I waslike growing up watching to Jitu and I have like these guys I idolize, but if I would have to say my some of my favorites, I mean I like my professor Kyle. Ithink he has amazing Ju Jitsu. He is yes yeah! Here's a mare is amazing aswell. I watch some of his stuff. I, like I mean yeah. I like I like bushes, Ha Leandro, Filipepi,all the guys. You know there there's so many talented guys out there. I don'treally have a list of well. That's a good! That's a good topflight man yeah! That's it's definitely a good top. I want to be too much of afan of like some of these guys because there's a good chance that I'm going tobe competing again, all right. No keep your distance a little bit. Yougot to keep your yeah well Mason. Just so you know,frank l, Fanson you're, an our top five brother and the fact that your apresident was bad ass. Dude. Thank you. Mlocal boys done go, I'M A toithe! Yougo there. You Go! That's t o bad, so mason. Do you preparedifferently when competing in a DC? I J, J, F tournament or Ebi Rules or is thepreparation to different or the same for all three rule sets yeah nowthey're. Definitely they definitely very drastically, depending on Oh wow,at a competition that we're doing. I personally am not in charge of thatkyotes up all the training. So whenever we train hill before we starthe stops, he tells us the rules what we're doing that day. So what theTimes are going to be, how much time we're going to go? How much time we'regoing to rest he's in charge of all that, so, for instance, when we are changing for ACC me andyour were both in camp at the same time, so one typical day might be like we'regoing to do we're going to do a thirty minute match, which is the time limitof the finals of ACC. We're going to do a thirty minute match the first tenminutes is going to be submised only after that someone's going to be therelike watching the time and they're going to yell points, because that'swhat happens at ACC and then went star county points for the second tenminutes and then, if it's a draw zero zero, youguys are going to restart on the feet and the last ten minutes you guys aregoing to do another like the ten minute overtime around so h. He also does like a lot ofsituational training. A lot of you know: He'll, put two minutes on the timerwith like a fifteen. Second rest like let's say we're training for like a gtournament IV GG, so it'll be like. I choose the position. I'll choose likethe guard that we startin so like, for...

...instance, I'll choose close guard whenI'm on okay and then the next round. My partner would choose the guard and then the next round. I would chooselike what position I want to pass from, so I would choose like a necat rightand then my opponent would choose what position he wants to pass from. So it'sreally one eight minute round, but it's condensed into like four two minutesections and each section will be like its own match. So your goal is in andevery piece of the training, and then there will be fifteen seconds inbetween the two minute segments and in that fifteen seconds you have to liketie your belt and get in the next position, because if you watch any IVgg Ju Jitsu, there will be breaks in the matches and you have like twentyseconds to tell you about. You know what I'm saying. Yeah makes it like alot more realistic and then also sometimes when you're training for,like, like let's say, you're, doing like a ten minute round, you might kindof just be in a flow of the whole round, but really when you're competing thematch doesn't flow like that, it's usually like ex. You explode to try toscore you scramble and then you kind of likerest and then you explode, and then you rest so that kind of training preparesyou more for that as well. So, and it's always different- that's just oneexample of something that co might have as to do, but it's always different. Ilove it man. I love the inside look into what it takes to be a championsaying. Thank you for the details, man, you know, and that kind of brings me toanother question, and actually this is a bit of a change in our in what wewere going to ask. But I thought this is an important question here. Soyou're such a high caliber competitor and you could have gone with any team,so why did you choose Chal, Sara and his cat a team? So I had a coach that Iwas working with in Fresno. His name is Gabriel Fonseca he's the guy thatactually promoted me that browned out what up Game Yep and a lot of localpeople in the area probably remember him. He was like my he first kind oflike brought me into the Jujitsu shine. He already had competed in all thedifferent major tournaments and he was an Ivga referee and he knew way he wasmore of a fan of Jujitsu. He knew way more about Jujitsu that I did. I didn'tknow anything right. I was coming like the in a May world and he's the onethat actually mentioned to me that there was like c Ta in San Jose and then also he hadmentioned to me that there was a pretty pretty high level gym in La that.I could possibly look into which was check map and then the third optionthat he told me might be viable was Otos in San, Diego, so m pretty much.What had happened was he had been contracted to teach their dethrone andfor three years and two years into the contract he got a. He had a good dealwith a business partner O to open up his own academy in Florida. So he justpretty much talked to me and he was like came in. I have to go to Florida.Have this business opportunity, but also like you shouldn't be here:anyways like you, should be at one of the real teams, because we didn't havea lot of competitors at dethrone, and you know there's not that much highlevel like world class, Ju Jitsu in the area right. I was A to like travel, alot to train with people, and you know going down to Biselli training withlike the Cisneros brothers, and you know I didn't shot out a real team likeset team training, so he gave me those those three ideas and shortly aftershortly after he left, I just San Jose was the closest you know and I juststarted going down there. I have a friend that lives in San Jose and I wasyou know I'll come down on Monday and I would sleep on his floor and then I wasan Pranic Kyles for like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday, and then Iwill drive back to Fresno and like teach a couple classes and like do someprivate, and I was doing that for maybe...

...a month or two where I would just godown for you know three or four days during the week and then eventuallyKyans business partner offered me to come there and teach a couple classesand make some money and I was going to stay. I stayed in like this print shop. There was thePrithu there, that's right next to the gym, and I stayed in like the back theback room at this print shop. We sin the car and just moved there andt were here: Wow man, that's amazing that dedication to the fullest brotherYeah Holy Shit, I'M gonna apartment. Now I upgraded so I'm out here you go,that's was set, it was real, quick, it's like they were pretty shirts allday and there's like a heat, cress and there's a there's, no AC, and so it was just like.I was just sweating all day. You know no a c at the gym, so I'm just likesweating at the gym and then I'm like at home sweating. It was horrible, aman, but you you kept focus you kept grinding. You know that's what mattersand look what you are now. You know that it's just amazing story, amazing story in Yeah. If any of ourlisteners have dreams of becoming a world champion this. These are thesacrifices you're going to have to make people just see. You get in your handraised, but they don't see you sleeping in a sweaty, pring and training. Minewas better, I mean there's other kids that come and they sleep in the atticat the jam. Damn there's kids that sleep on the mats, I'm talking aboutfor a year, sleeping in yeah, awesome awesome right within the lastfew years you have won numerous titles prestigious titles to be accurate, andyou have beaten many world class competitors most notably Craig Jones.Will you beat twice by the way Yep the grappling world has seen quite theSentian from you, after winning the West Coast, a DC C trials? How were youable to turn the corner from tough competitor to a pound for pound stapleI'll, say probably kyle man like I, since I've been here, I mean thetraining is so much harder than I was training before I was go very hard now.It's like the volume like the volume of training that I have to do is likealmost unbearable. It's like horrible, but it's like I've gotten really goodby doing it. So that's the only thing that like keeps me going if I was doingall this training and losing I probably would have gave up by now, but the factthat I've been winning is like all right. It's worth it, but yeah, justKyle, just making me train so much more than I want to. Probably because sinceI've been like started listening to him and doing all the training and stuffI've been competing really well so yeah, I seen results. Yeah Yeah, good stuff,man sucks because I'm like I'm like Oh man, I can't like I can't get out of it.I need the night off or whatever likened, walk. Dude my backs likewalking up and he's like. I don't fucking care like A. I t, O o t, yeah, okay, there'sconsequences and it's lit God, but he's scary man yeah. That's that's reminds me of frank, shut out brother Yeah Man, so you know Ma I'm to my nextquestion here. What do you think about Ivga, J, F, J F, allowing more leg loggame in tournaments like what do you? How do you feel about that yeah? Ithink it's good. I think that Helox or are a huge part of Nogi Ju Jitsu andthere's a lot of talented grapplers that rely heavily on leg locks, callthemselves like lock, specialists yeah, and they would have competed in theIGGA tournaments because they can't use their game. You know so they yeah buildthere at a disadvantage. So yeah. I...

...think it's great man. I think it's good.Okay, good stuff. Our final question, my man, you beat Craig Jones, twicewho's on your hit list, and why is it Gordon Ryan and cane and Duarte Yeah? I mean those. Are you know if you're making like a poundfor pound list, Gordon's, obviously number one and then Kinon is definitelysomewhere between two and four you know yeah, I mean those getting a win overone of those two guys at the only like getting away in over either. One ofthose guys would be amazing, so I wouldn't say anyone's on my hit list.I'm just my main goal right now is to keep thesubmission on the ground title because they pay really really well and theawesome. If I lose the title, I wouldn't be getting paid the same thatI'm getting paid. You know, okay to my goal. My goal honestly is to keepstacking up so that I can have money to invest in my future m. So that's mybiggest goal right now is keep keep making good. You know big money. Besides that yeah I mean any having anyof these guys on on your on. Your record is great right at just anotherfeather ah, but gordy would be huge. Obviously kind of would be huge, butyeah. My main goal honestly is just to make money. Man, hey CR, correct me ifI'm wrong, but I remember Vinny, Mag Lace beat Gordon Ryan. Do not too longe Cordian Yeah Mission on thin, been not too long after you beat Vinny Yeahand then Craig Jones, not too long after that Greg beat him first and thenand then I beat Craig and then I'd be minny. Yes, yes, so that that I thinkyou're in the discussion, man you're. Definitely the discussion for a poundfor pound that that is incredible t I k you know somewhere on the top ten forsure the well. The thing is like flo grappling is in charge of the POM forpound top ten, and you know I'm the champion of submissionunderground, which is on USCITA right, like a competitor flow grappling. Sowhen they won't rank you o yeah, I mean I'm not going to say they won't rank me.But you know, I'm Great Jones is on the the pomp for pound top ten, and I thinkRobert De himenes might be he's on my sure, but the only guy that I've lostto in like the last the last two years has been kind on who's like number twoand then everyone else I haven't lost. So it's either that because I'm on thecompetitors network or it's, maybe they just don't value that I've won so manyof the matches in the Bi over time. It's one of those two things get yourship together for Flo grappling yeah, it's fine yeah. For sure I mean I just have to keep winning youknow, and you will man you will you know we've enjoyed watching you get towhere you are are so far and we're definitely going to enjoy what you havecoming up in the future, and you know again we thank you for joining us today.You know, we hope to talk to you again in the future and give us an update.What's been going on. You know what I'm saying. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for hitme up. I appreciate it all right, real, quick man, any sponsors you'd like tomention or trading partners. You want to make twenty a word bank I have. Ihave. I have a couple men I have so many sponsors. Do you guys have an hourno well make as long as you take brother,wild Bar Fox own fuel, Santa Cruz, medicinals, all right I'll order, someof them a bran, Yeah Santa Cruz Dimas, has good stuff I got in my Insara. Ihave like a link for a Discount Code Code, dope, Dope Yeah. All my sponsorsare on my instar, like inside of my link tree right. Okay, my brand is likemy gey sponsor and then redway Ta to...

...and Fresno. They do all my heart workfor me, recasion solder to shit any wants to get a TRANSAC o.You think they'll, do it for him, yeah all right work it out. Yeah, we coolall right, guys! Well, all right, I'm going to go, get my whole comedia trampstamp and thanks man. Thank you for joining us. Have a have a good nightbrother have a go it. Thank you. Mason have a great one! Man appreciate it all right, you judates! That's all wehave in store for today. Thank you for joining US Eddie. Thank you for beinghere with me. Anything you want to say before we cut out. No, no just God whatwhat an honor it was to to interview Mason Fowler. We really stepped up ourgame. Man. Thank you for including me in the interview Yeahs for making thishappen any I mean I appreciate you frank. You know what you frank, yeah,er to for get frank yeah for sure, and we missed your Brothero, but I knowwe'll be here next time. Thank you again. You juties out there keeprolling training. If you can we'll catch you guys next time, peace, allright, Elfonzo, let's get your Eddie Contraras Tattoo. Let's do it, but bythis is the motivation.

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